Can one be a Christian and believe that all will be saved?
God wills in all things to accomplish the mystery of his Incarnation
Some time ago, I received a question from a reader/listener about the boundary of the Christian hope; that is, is it somehow unfaithful to hope that God will, in the End, accomplish the salvation of all? Since we’re still in the season of Eastertide, his question strikes me as germane to the full scope of the Resurrection promise, about which the ancient church father, Maximus the Confessor, asserts:
“The Word of God and God wills eternally and wills in all things to accomplish the mystery of his Incarnation.”
In other words, as scripture itself says plainly, the resurrection of Christ is but the first fruit of a salvation that is cosmic in scope, extending not to certain individuals but to all of creation— all of creation, Maximus reminds us, will be as the child born to Mary, a creature yet charged with the glory of God.
Without further ado, here is Matthew’s thoughtful question followed by my response.
Hello Rev. Micheli,
My name is Matthew _______, I'm an enormous fan of your work. I was reading Rob Bell the other day and was a bit disturbed by this line: "It's been clearly communicated to many that this belief (in hell as eternal, conscious torment) is a central truth of the Christian faith and to reject it is, in essence, to reject Jesus."Would you say it is a common view among evangelicals that the *belief itself* in universalism warrants Hell? That even if the person believes Jesus saves, the additional belief of universalism amounts to rejecting him? (This could just be Bell's hyperbole regarding the word "essentially".) Can one be a Christian and believe that all will be saved? I was wondering what your take on the matter might be.
Sincerest,
Matt
Hi Matt,
Quite obviously you’ve read a sufficient amount of my writing to guess that flattery was a good gamble to get a response from me. I thank you all the same, and I’m being truthful when I say that I’m humbled not only by your kind words but more so by your trust in me with such a significant question.
I think a word like “trust” is absolutely the right word to use in this matter for the stakes explicit in a doctrine like the— supposed— doctrine of eternal conscious torment are too high for the sort of callous, unthinking certitude with which many Christians comment on it. On the one hand, I know far too many liberals who attempt to posit universal salvation by resorting to sloppy analogies about spokes on a wheel.
“Different religions are just different paths to the same destination,” is a mantra many are conditioned by the culture to repeat.
Seldom do such people realize the presumption behind what they surely take to be a humble position; after all, just as only God can reveal God, only God can know which paths might produce the destination that is God.
Likewise are those who want to iron over differences between the faiths of Abraham by dismissing them altogether with, “We all worship the same God, right?” We may indeed all worship the same God, but such a dismissal ignores that the central tension in scripture is not over having or not having a generalized belief in God but in whether or not God’s People worship God rightly.
Any account of universal salvation, therefore, must arise not from the secular impulse to undo what God does at Babel and eliminate difference.
The difference God does at Babel is the way God blesses the world.
The elimination of difference, Babel teaches us, comes from our sinful inclination to be gods in God’s stead. Often I think Christians of a certain vintage insist upon the notion of eternal hell because those Christians adovcating for universal salvation do so in a way that seems insufficiently Christian; that is, Christianity often seems incidental to the sentiments that prompt their universalism. Incidentally, I believe this is also why so many progressive Christians are unpersuasive to other Christians on LGBTQ issues. “Love and welcome for all,” for example, is a principle with which I concur, but it is a principle.
Principles, in principle, do not require a crucified Jew for you to discover them.
Any argument for universal salvation, then, must be one that emerges from the particular revelation given to us by God in Jesus Christ, and, frankly, the argument from those scriptures is much easier to execute than many brimstone-loving evangelicals seem to realize. Certainly there’s sufficient scriptural witness to disqualify any characterization of eternal conscious torment as an essential Christian belief. As Jesus tells Nicodemus, his coming comes from God’s love for the entire cosmos and what God desires is that all the world will be saved— the word there is healed— through him.
Question to Ponder:
Does God get what God wants in the End?
If not, wouldn’t what frustrates God’s eternal aim, by definition, be god?
In that Gospel, John makes explicit in his prologue and in his Easter account that the incarnation is God’s way of constituting a new creation not evacuating a faithful few from the old creation. The cosmic all-ness of Christ’s saving work is the thrust of Paul’s argument in Romans where even the unbelief of the Jews Paul attributes to God’s own doing:
“God has consigned some to unbelief so that God may be merciful to all.”
He puts it even plainer in Timothy:
“Our savior God . . . intends that all human beings shall be saved and come to a full knowledge of the truth.”
Where “the other place” is mentioned in the creeds, which, remember are the only means by which Christians evaluate who is and is not a legitimate believer, Christ’s descent to the dead is mentioned to reiterate the reality of his death and so his hallowing of death for all who enter it. Even in Christ’s own parables— and remember, they are parables— hell is never a realm that lies outside the realm of grace.
Whenever we separate the person and work of Christ, which an accomodated Church in Christendom is always tempted to do, we abstract discipleship (a life patterned after the person of Jesus) from faith (confession in the work of Christ), leaving “belief” to play an outsized role in how we conceive of what it means to be a Christian.
Faith then becomes a work we do, a work by which we merit salvation rather than a gift from God to sinners. Understand, this insistence on eternal conscious torment is ungracious all the way down. We’re the agents of it all.
It turns Christianity into a religion of law instead of grace.
To answer your question, though, I’m not sure that I can answer your question. I don’t know how many evangelicals believe that belief in universalism itself warrants eternal conscious torment. If they do believe that believing all shall be saved is a surefire way not to be saved, I’m not sure what Bible they’re reading. Karl Barth, for instance, who was an evangelical in the original Reformational sense of the word, wrote that while the Bible does not permit us to conclude without qualification that all shall be saved, the Bible does exhort us to pray that all will be saved because the salvation of all is God’s revealed will.
The salvation of all is quite plainly God’s revealed will.
Just as I’m not sure what Bible such evangelicals could be reading, I’m also unclear about what God they could worshipping. Such dogmatic insistence behind belief in eternal conscious torment and the alleged justice that requires such a doctrine grates against the justice God reveals to us in crucifixion of God’s own self for the ungodly. When it comes to questions of eternal punishment, we mustn’t let the world’s sin obscure the fact that Jesus, crucified for the ungodly, is the form God’s justice takes in the sinful world.
While I’m not sure how many evangelicals believe believing in universal salvation yields damnation, I do believe many evangelicals lack an helpful awareness that belief in universal salvation is more than a meager minority voice in the history of the Christian Church. There have been universalists as long as there have been Christians. In the first half the Church’s history, they were so numerous that Augustine had a sarcastic epithet for them (“the merciful-hearted”). The church father, Gregory of Nyssa, whom Rob Bell basically ripped off, was one. He argued that since Adam and Eve were types who represented the entire human community whatever salvation meant it meant the redemption of all of humanity. You need not agree with Gregory but to suggest Gregory is not a Christian seems to indicate the plot has gotten lost.
As David Bentely Hart notes:
“[Universalists] cherished the same scriptures as other Christians, worshipped in the same basilicas, lived the same sacramental lives. They even believed in hell, though not in its eternity; to them, hell was the fire of purification described by the Apostle Paul in the third chap- ter of 1 Corinthians, the healing assault of unyielding divine love upon obdurate souls, one that will save even those who in this life prove unworthy of heaven by burning away every last vestige of their wicked deeds.”
Back to your question— Would you say it is a common view among evangelicals... that even if the person believes Jesus saves, the additional belief of universalism amounts to rejecting him?
Again, I’m not sure what evangelicals believe about the dangers of believing in universalism, but if any do, then we should pray for them. How sad to think that it’s possible for Christians in America to have turned the wine of the Gospel into water.
A Gospel where, in the End, sinners get what they deserve— that’s water not wine.
It’s religion; it’s not the justification of the ungodly.
A Gospel where those who err by believing too much in the triumphant mercy of God will be banished to eternal outer darkness— that’s worse than the plain old water of religion. What’s more, it puts the right-believers outside the party standing shoulder-to-shoulder with the older brother pissed off at the prodigality of the Father’s grace. Recall Good Friday, it was such begrudgers who pushed God out of the world on a cross.
A great question. I wonder if it is too facile to reverse the query to "Can you be Christian and not believe in universal salvation?" Clearly this easily begets its own form of judgmentalism. Better to rely always and completely on the graciousness and mercy of God in Christ for all us prodigals. Otherwise we are easily tempted to seek the "deserving" of God's favor. In CS Lewis's "The Great Divorce" one of the riders on the bus cries out that they only want what they deserve. The bus driver responds, "Oh, it's not that bad." Thank God we don't get what we deserve, but what God wills for us, in Christ.
I like to think of George MacDonald a wonderful not-quite universalist. When after his death, MacDonald was accused of universalism C.S. Lewis defended him saying that MacDonald, 'Never believed that all men would go to heaven but he always HOPED that all men would go to heaven.'(rough quote from memory) In this debate there is one essential that all Christians must believe, that is that Christ can be trusted to judge. Not trusted to give us the judgment that we hope for or have proven ought to be, but trust that whatever He judges, whether heaven for all, or hell for all, or some discrimination(based not on anything in us but on His good pleasure for we know what everything in us argues for) that His judgment is the height of love and husbanding not simply for all in general but for each in particular.
'Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”' from Revelation 14
Two things that I have learned and can share on this passage:
1) this word 'torment' is basanismos and while it can refer to torture it often refers not so much to being strung up on the rack as to hard labor, to slaving away at our own works
2) the 'presence' of the holy angels and the lamb here is enopion and refers to the eyes, 'in the eyes of' and is often used to contrast the way that something appears to us against the way that it appears to God.
Based on that, may I suggest that it is in the sight of the Lamb that the sinners are tormented and this is 'the real reality' but that in their own minds their hard labor is useful and meaningful. The picture that we should have of election and judgment is not men beating on the doors of heaven and Christ turning them away because they aren't in His book but of men working, slaving their way--into Hell. Determinedly, stubbornly, doggedly pursuing our own damnation. And in some cases, the Rider of the White Horse swoops in and kidnaps us away, marriage by capture indeed!, exercises His veto over our will. The Saints might be in Heaven a million years before they stop kicking and screaming about their rights and what is due to them, grieving the hell that they have missed out on.