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God is the Presupposition of Both Himself and Humanity

§33 - Session Ten

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Summary

This conversation delves into the theological concepts of election and predestination as articulated by Karl Barth, emphasizing God's initiative in the relationship with humanity and the role of Jesus Christ. The participants explore the implications of these ideas for understanding faith, community, and the nature of God's love. They discuss how these concepts challenge traditional views and encourage a deeper engagement with the divine.

Takeaways

  • Election is about God's choice to be with us.

  • Predestination is often misunderstood as a deterministic concept.

  • Human agency plays a role in responding to God's initiative.

  • The church's role is to embody and express God's love.

  • Barth emphasizes the importance of community in faith.

  • Understanding election requires a focus on Jesus Christ.

  • Faith is not merely a work but a response to God's love.

  • Theological discussions should begin and end with Jesus.

  • Baptism is an act of God's predestination in the present.

  • God's ongoing presence is crucial for understanding predestination.

Sound Bites

  • "God is the presupposition both of himself and of man."

  • "Election is God being with us and for us."

  • "Who has the initiative in this relationship?"

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