Here is the second installment of our study of Robert Jenson’s writings on the Last Things, starting with his chapter “The Saints.”
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We will discuss sections 4 and 5 this week.
Show Notes
Summary
This conversation delves into the theological perspectives of Karl Barth and Robert Jensen, exploring their views on authority, the nature of judgment, and the significance of community and intimacy with God. The discussion highlights the differences between Protestant and Catholic beliefs, the role of saints, and the implications of Jesus's death and resurrection for humanity. The speakers emphasize the importance of joy and love in understanding God's judgment and the ongoing narrative of faith. In this conversation, the speakers explore the themes of intimacy, brokenness, redemption, and the nature of existence in relation to faith. They discuss how genuine love and acceptance can transform relationships, the importance of embracing one's flaws, and the role of saints in the narrative of redemption. The conversation also delves into the concept of fulfillment in heaven, the significance of desire, and how identity is measured through Christ.
Takeaways
Karl Barth emphasized the authority of Christ over human structures.
Jensen's ecumenical approach seeks unity among Christian traditions.
The last judgment is rooted in the cross and resurrection of Christ.
God's judgment is fundamentally an expression of love.
Intimacy with God is central to the Christian experience.
The story of Jesus informs the stories of all believers.
Happiness is a fruit of the spirit, not mere emotion.
The role of saints is to remind us of our shared faith journey.
Theological language should promote joy and community.
Understanding judgment requires a shift from fear to love. Intimacy involves knowing and loving someone fully.
Brokenness can be a source of strength and connection.
The gospel encourages resilience in the face of failure.
Forgiveness allows us to move beyond our past mistakes.
Heaven offers a space for delight and fulfillment.
Every person's unique story contributes to the community of saints.
The church should embrace and value individual particularity.
Desire is an essential aspect of human existence.
Perfect love dispels fear and encourages authenticity.
Our identity is rooted in our relationship with Christ.
Sound Bites
"It's just tire after tire after tire."
"Karl Barth had this desire to have the sense of what authority."
"Jesus is the one true sacrament."
"I know you struggle with alcohol and you are still my beloved."
"It's through my brokenness that I get to minister."
"The gospel reads fall down seven times, get up eight."
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