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I’ve been really enjoying this conversation. Gives me hope!!

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You two really raised the bar with this conversation. I couldn't agree more with the points you both were making. I don't have to say how many sermons I have heard from various pulpits and well, either bite my tongue really hard and end up with a head ache from the eye rolls and folks I sit with are used to me mumbling a few choice words. Yeah.. anyway thank you. I'll pass this to a few clergy friends who could really use this as a guide to not just Sunday but the experience of being a pastor and what that means.

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