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James West's avatar

I believe that your sermon gave me the means to finally leave Woulda Shoulda Oughta Couldaville behind.

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Fleming Rutledge's avatar

I'm not sure I understood most of this, but this I understand. I just changed one word.

Behold, I tell you a great mystery!

All events, A-Y, precede the final Event, Z, when Christ will be all in all things. And yet, Z is the very ground and destiny of every event that came before it.

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Jason Micheli's avatar

Yeah, it’s a struggle to take the claims in those epistle verses straightforwardly and make them comprehensible. Though, I think the gospel has to be so cosmic and supremely good it’s beyond our grasp.

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Jason Micheli's avatar

Your edit was good too, BTW :)

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Kenneth Tanner's avatar

Incredible.

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Kirsten Basram's avatar

Yes! Nothing else makes sense. God is not God unless all can be healed. Thank you so much.

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Chris Nye's avatar

This was a *remarkable* sermon, Jason. Wow. I’ll be listening and reading again. Thank you.

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Susan D  Owens's avatar

A shining gem in this reading…I read for this reason !

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Katie Andraski's avatar

Wow. Lots to think on here. But this sounds like a gospel that is better than good. Everything sad will be untrue. Thank you so much.

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Aaron Krohn's avatar

Holy shit that’s good.

The wonderful Rutledge helpfully adjusted your “equation”. (I got it with A-Z but I take her point)

But what you wrote is terrific - as always.

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Kemp Wiebe's avatar

Thanks, this was really well written. It reminded me of reading Lilith, coming away with a sense of bewilderment and confusion, but hope in a reality that I can barely comprehend.

Should we think of time as unnatural in some way? When Christ happens to time, does it cease to be real?

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Aaron Krohn's avatar

Yes! I had the same experience with Lilith. Should read again with this sermon in mind!

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Joel Steiner's avatar

Since I heard Chris's interview with Jordan, I've been chewing on the idea of time healed. There is such incredible hope in it.

One needle I can't quite thread yet is the argument from God's goodness. I can't shake the feeling that it is just shifting the location of the challenge to God's goodness. History and all creation healed is breath-taking, and I long for it... but if memory of time unfulfilled still exists--or even if it does--how does the evil now experienced even penultimately not offend God's goodness?

Looking forward to getting Jordan's book and rereading Maximus.

Regardless, thank you: Joe Magina once said something to the effect that: to do theology, to speak of God faithfully, at some point we all risk heresy: the question is just which ones. Thanks for helping us stretch further into the goodness of God!

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Joel Steiner's avatar

*--or even if it doesn't--

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John Grinnell's avatar

Could you cite the above quote from Maximus,Jason?

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Jason Micheli's avatar

Hi John,

It's a paraphrase of Amb 10.37, 82.

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Katie Andraski's avatar

What's a good Maximus translation?

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Jan Moye Smith's avatar

A lot to think about here. Thank you for your remarkable perspective, Jason.

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